Where is it? – #3

 I’ve had this photo for a long time and, indeed, published it some years ago on a previous version of this website, but I must confess that I’ve lost my note of the original source (Nigel Brown? John Salter?) and some of the key information (such as who?). Whatever, it is an HRG and is, I believe, on the 195o Lands End Trial. The question is where?

I had lengthy, but ultimately inconclusive, email exchanges with both Nigel and John about this photo back in September 2011. I have a note that the 1950 Lands End sections were, in alphabetical order: Barton Steep (ST), Beggars Roost, Doveyhay (m/c only), Hookway, Southernwood, Station Lane (Hill), Stoney Street, and Yealscombe; but the Motor Sport report also mentions Ashwell so I wonder if my list is correct?

We eliminated all except Hookway based on our knowledge of the others, but couldn’t match the photo with the section known as Hookway and used by the Silverton Motor Club for their Exe Valley Trial up to 1998 (Silverton used the track west-to-east with the section start at https://bit.ly/348MSPe).

So … does anyone know where this is? Or can anyone at least confirm that No.102 was an HRG in 1950, which might help to confirm the year and, therefore, the ‘long list’ of sections to choose from?

Update 26 September 2019 18:00:

Well … it is the 1950 Lands End Trial, and it is D.C.S.Bassett in an 1100cc HRG on Lyn Hill near Barbrook in North Devon (the list of 1950 sections, above, is obviously incomplete). Lyn Hill starts on the B3234 at OS GR SS 7196 4859 and heads south east to end at OS GR SS 7245 4827. It is clearly shown as an ORPA on the current OS Maps. Lyn Hill was used for the Lands End Trial in 1949 and 1950 only and, according to my source, the bridge over the West Lyn River was washed-away in the infamous 1952 Lynmouth Flood and was subsequently rebuilt as a non-vehicle bridge. Which explains why the hill was never used again. The pillars and gates are still, apparently, in situ on the sharp left-hand hairpin bend clearly shown on the OS maps.

If you view the B3234 on Google Street View, heading uphill towards Barbrook, you can clearly see the bridge in the valley on the left-hand side just uphill from the Olde Cottage Inne.

Update 18 February 2020 12:00:

I’ve just received the above photo from Jo Goodman (of the Goodman family who own the wonderful Barbrook Filling Station, well-known to all who’ve done the Lands End Trial). I think this is final and conclusive proof that the photo of the HRG is most definitely on Lyn Hill, as described above. Are those really the same gates as were there 70 years ago? They certainly look identical!

Where is it? – #2

I’m not sure where these two photographs came from, although I know that they’re both attributed to Brunell. I’ve also seen a third one, of a BMW 319, taken in the same location, but the current owner of the car had inherited the photo album which included the photo when he bought the car and had no idea where it was taken. So … does anyone know where this is?

 Update 2 September 2019 14:00:

Well … very many  thanks to Alastair Queen for setting me on the path to sorting-out this one. The event is the 1936 Brighton-Beer, and the section is Hone Horror at Hone Farm, just off the A396 to the north of Dulverton in Somerset (OS GR SS325927). For those who want a more accurate location, the cars are at https://w3w.co/tonic.fonts.corrosive. Hone Horror was listed as a ‘Brake and Acceleration Test’ and was never used again, as far as I am aware.

For those interested in the ‘research process’ read on … After Alastair saw the original post above, his research took him to https://bit.ly/2lViR41 and thence to https://bit.ly/2lUcsWO where all is revealed. I then realised that it was hardly surprising that I recognised the photograph of the Frazer-Nash BMW 319 when I saw it at Prescott in 2016, because it was the same photo (the top one above) that had been sitting in my own archive for years. Steve Fathers, who posted the photo on PreWarCar.Com, is the ‘current owner’ that I refer to above and he’d obviously made his online post several weeks after I met him.

Then, when I got to the MMM Register website, I was embarrassed to realise that this photo …

… was already sitting in my archives, clearly marked as the 1936 Brighton-Beer. No wonder the location looked very familiar although, until today, I had no idea where it was.

So … the one question remaining is … why did Brunell decide to photograph the 1936 Brighton-Beer, which was a ‘premier league’ trial in its day, at such an obscure location? Or maybe he just knew that it would produce distinctive photographs?

Where is it? – #1

These two photographs have come to me from different sources. It’s obviously the same event, and at a very similar time (look at the spectators standing under the bridge), but does anyone have any idea where they were taken?


Update 27 August 2019 12:00:

After linking this post to the Classic Trials Facebook Group, David Alderson came up with the photo below, taken from the book “So This Is Yorkshire – A nostalgic look at Motor Sport from 1910 to 1939”. I then got hold of a pre-1960 1″ OS map of the area and it clearly shows two fords, one on a ‘yellow’ road leading to/from West End, and another on an unfenced track to the east of Mogington Bridge. Both these fords, and the ‘yellow’ road over Mogington Bridge, are now submerged under the Thruscross Reservoir.

The balustrading may have changed in the time between the photos from the book (below) and the photos I have posted above, but the bridge structure does look very similar. I suspect these photos are all of West End because the road is the more major of the two, might have justified a parallel footbridge, and has a single-arrow ‘steep hill’ mark on the OS map immediately after the ford to the east.

Now … does anyone know anything about Yorkshire trials that might have included a section called ‘West End’?

More page updates

Thanks to Arthur Vowden, I’ve managed to unravel the early history of Restart magazine and have updated the Magazines page accordingly.

Thanks to Mike Ellis, I’ve made yet more updates to the Troll T6 page, although this is now becoming a bit too long for easy reading and I may have to consider splitting it in the future.

Two questions about early issues of Restart

Can anyone help? I had always believed that my collection of ACTC magazines was complete (from Four Wheels Out No.22 onwards), but there are two possible gaps:

  • Were any issues of Restart magazine published in 1990? My collection jumps from the last issue of Wheelspin in May 1990 (Vol.3 No.9) to an issue of Restart for March 1991 (Vol.2. No.1). Does anyone have any issues of Restart in this gap?
  • Was there a Volume 3, Issue No.3 of Restart in late 1992? My collection jumps from July 1992 (Vol.3 No.2) to March 1993 (Vol.4 No.1).

A new tagline for wheelspin.info

The more observant of you will have noticed that, together with the hosting changes described in the previous posting, the site’s tagline has changed from “The Where and When of Classic Trials” to “The When and Where of Classic Trials”. This reflects a subtle change in the bias of my trials-history-related research.

Although making the Trials Sections Database as comprehensive as possible is still my ultimate goal, I now think that this will be more easily achieved by concentrating, first, on the trials themselves, then moving-on to the sections used for those trials.

I have therefore created a new Events Database which currently holds the dates of nearly 800 trials from the earliest MCC events (remember the first ‘Edinburgh’ was held in 1904) to the present day. This database is split into two parts – up to and including 1983, and 1984 onwards – to reflect the start of the ACTC Championships in 1984.

Up to 1983 I add events on an ad-hoc basis but with no intention (life is far too short) of trying to make the list comprehensive. From 1984 onwards my magazine collection should allow me to create a comprehensive record of every event in the ACTC Calendar, whether part of the ACTC Championship or not. I’m currently adding events from the 1980s and 1990s and will make the complete list available on this website as soon as I believe it to be worth publishing.

Website changes

I’ve recently moved this site from a WordPress.Com website to a self-hosted WordPress.Org website. Although the site looks much the same at the moment, minus the annoying pop-up ads which are now ubiquitous for WordPress.Com sites, it will allow for more flexibility in the future.

Although I’ve moved all the pages from the previous site, essentially unchanged, I will be doing some consolidation, tidying-up, and adding a few new pages, over the next two to three weeks.

I’ve also, finally, started wading through the mountain of unactioned trials-history-related emails received over more years than I care to admit. These emails have unearthed some interesting items which don’t justify a page on this website but might justify a blog posting, so I’ve moved the blog posts to the front page of the site to make these future posts more visible.